MP: 'Hunters not united'
ANTI-HUNT MP Dan Norris has claimed disunity among pro-hunt supporters as calls for the repeal of the hunting ban dwindle.
The Labour MP, who represents North East Somerset, was responding to comments by Countryside Alliance chief executive Simon Hart, who has claimed in The Field magazine that "few packs in the north ever see an anti-hunting activist" and that allegations of illegal hunting are rare and prosecutions unheard of.
This leads, says Mr Hart, to questions about whether pursuing repeal of the Hunting Act, which bans hunting with dogs, is a sensible strategy.
Mr Norris said: "Thanks to the reported comments of the boss of the pro-hunt Countryside Alliance, we learn of marked disunity among pro-hunters. He has admitted that there are hunts in parts of the country which do not want the law to be repealed.
"The number of people prepared to try to defend the brutality of hunting is dwindling. This is welcome news. I always maintained that even pro-hunters would, in time, see the logic and sense of Labour's outlawing the cruelty of hunting with hounds. For decades, poll after poll has shown how the British people overwhelmingly support a ban.
"Now it seems a growing number of hunters too are content with it."







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by john, scotland
Thursday, November 27 2008, 7:14PM
“hunting should never of been banned in the first place , as a supporter of hunts i can honestly say MANY more foxs are killed now than there ever was since the ban came in. I personally have shot up to 6 foxs per night on land that has not been hunted on. If there was no ban this land would be hunted on and shooting would not be permitted thus the number of foxs killed would be dramatically reduced.”
by M Wood, Durham
Friday, November 21 2008, 12:42PM
“So the Countryside Alliance think there are no hunt monitors in the North. That is good, as it means monitors remain INVISIBE, to the hunters. In Trimdon last week two hounds left their mark on the villiage green and no-one cleared it up, and as the hunt rode through the main street the hounds were barking at pet dogs across the road, which I have never seen before.What i am seeing regularly this season though are hounds being sent into dense coverts, impossibe for a man to lay a trail. On top of that ,hunts say they are using a fox based scent, so hounds are following "fox scent", the same as if you give a drug scent to a drug trained dog it will search for drugs! The League Against Cruel Sports want to help and assist the Police Authorities to monitor hunts successfully for those who are flouting the law.
Lest we Forget, Hunting is a CRUEL SPORT.A change in government would bring about the Hunting Ban being overturned. If hunting was bad before the hunting fraternity would make sure we (anti hunt supporters) knew it. I can envisage carnage in the countryside where wild animals would be chased quite openly for all to see, not otters at the momment, but as their numbers increase it would be a real possibility. I can't bear to consider any of this so will continue campaigning with others to prevent a masacre. Please join us.”
by anon, north east
Monday, November 17 2008, 11:17AM
“I have been monitoring hunts in the north east of england since February 2005 when the ban came in. EVERY hunt day, illegal hunting occurs. On 1st November this year, cubhunting was in progress at Sedgefield. If more monitors had been out, we would have nailed these animal abusers. WE DESPERATELY NEED MORE MONITORS or ADVANCE NOTICE OF WHERE HUNTS WILL MEET. (visit huntcrimewatch.co.uk or ring the League Against Cruel Sports with info anonymously if your prefer). THE SAD THING IS THAT ALTHOUGH 76% WANT THE BAN TO REMAIN, ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO BRING THESE ANIMAL ABUSERS TO JUSTICE. PLEASE GET OFF YOUR BUM AND BECOME A MONITOR. (I mean this in the nicest possible way of course). THATS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BEAT THIS LOW LIFE. More eyes means more prosecutions!!! You owe it to our wildlife. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR. GET INVOLVED!!!!”
by Anna Stanley, Chester
Friday, November 14 2008, 11:55PM
“The hunt ban should NEVER be repealed. Instead, those who are breaking the law (many hunts at present) should be tracked and prosecuted.
The link betwen animal abuse and violence against humans has long been accepted. Surely anyone can see that those who take pleasure in the pursuit and death of weaker creatures are a danger to society as a whole. Particularly when those people take no notice of the law, even taking a pride in their own sadism.
Some hunts have, however, taken to drag hunting, carrying on their traditions without causing another animal to suffer. This is proof enough that an enforced ban can work for all civil members of society.
Those who insist that the death of another is necessary to an enjoyable day out need psychiatric help, or to be taken into custody until they have dealt with whatever issues cause them to associate the suffering and death of other creatures with pleasure.”
by Ruth Ockendon Laycock, County Durham
Thursday, November 13 2008, 4:01PM
“I don't see how a law can be repealed once it is passed ! Surely if it can, then any law anyone doesn't like, could be too ! Why don't the hunters accept that this cruel pastime is now outdated. If they want blood let them hunt each other !”
by Barbara Bates, County Durham
Thursday, November 13 2008, 3:43PM
“The hunting fraternity are running scared because their days of sadistic killing are numbered. They have no control over their animals and cause the death of domestic pets and major disruption on the roads. It's time they realised it's going to get harder for them and just gave up the fight.”
by Elsie van der Steen, Paignton Devon TQ3 1BD
Thursday, November 13 2008, 1:31PM
“It is now recognised that there is a definite link between the perpetrators of animal cruelty and cruelty to children. There must be close scrutiny of those who participate in blood sports”
by lisa everton, staffordshire.
Thursday, November 13 2008, 12:20PM
“We would still have Wolves, Bears, and Eagles in England, if it weren't for the hunting brigade. (To name but three.) They have labelled every thing from Otters to Pine Martins as "vermin" over the years. They have driven countless species into extinction, some have only been saved at the last second, by protection orders. These people have a blood lust, and would label your mother as vermin, if they thought they could get away with hunting her down. To my way of thinking, the only real vermin (as opposed to native species),is the hunters themselves!”
by Margaret Hackney, West Sussex
Thursday, November 13 2008, 11:19AM
“As a hunt monitor I can say that I have witnessed illegal hunting taking place every week of the season since the hunting ban came in to effect. The hunt flout the law with impunity, and the police seem to be working along side these law breakers. This is not a class war, it's not about being wealthy, any one can join the hunt but most normal people are against this very cruel and disgusting sport. The countryside Alliance along with the MFHA are spending hundreds of thousands of pounds to try to gain an injunction against hunt monitors in Sussex. If they get this injunction there will be no one to stop them breaking the law while out on their killing spree. No animals will have any protection from the hunters, this is not just about foxes, it includes badgers who also suffer.The hunt masters are foul mouthed liars who resort to violence and threats. They will have people believe they are Trail hunting, I have only witnessed this as a publicity stunt. They still train the young hounds by taking them out Cub hunting. For anyone who does not know what Cub hunting entails, it is when the hunt go out at first light, often from the end of July with the young dogs, they surround a copse where a vixen will be with her cubs, they are by now 5month old. They make noise by banging their saddles so the cubs will try to escape only to find a pack of hounds waiting for them. Why are they training dogs to kill cubs if they are Trail hunting ? One would have expected to see them getting the young dogs used to following a scent from a rag. We should not underestimate the lengths that the Hunting fraternity will go to for a day out killing foxes or deer, or shooting birds. Simon Hart is right, why pursue a repeal of the ban, hunts are still out hunting foxes with dogs. The CPS take very few cases of illegal hunting to court,and the hunt use the term 'Accidental kill' to their advantage. The police have no understanding of what is illegal hunting and show a lethalgic approach to any complaint made to them of the hunts law breaking activities. Hunt monitoring under the present bill is almost impossible. What if the ban is repealed, will we see a return of hunt sabbing ? and at what cost to the public ? Before the ban the police would be out in force and would often have the police helicopter flying around to spot hunt sabs, after all the sabs were committing such terrible crimes as running across a field. The police helicopter has never been out to film the hunts, so why wouldn't the hunters be content with the present law it's so easy for them to break.”
by V Titchener, Oxfordshire
Thursday, November 13 2008, 8:49AM
“Hunting must not be allowed to be reinstated.
It is a barbaric adventure for the rich and the idle these people with so much time in their hands should offer their free time to animal sanctuaries or street collections NOT career around the fields chasing an innocent and terrified animal.”